So what is the difference between InDesign and say,
Quark, Photoshop, Illustrator, Pagemaker,
Framemaker, these all other programs out there,
and let's quickly talk about where they all sit.
So intensive InDesign, it has some direct competitors.
One would be Microsoft Word,
which is the more of an amateur program.
You're not going to get a design job with it,
and it has quite a lot of limitations.
You can do some nice stuff on word,
but really that's the entry level program and then you move into InDesign.
Now, other competitors to InDesign,
the main one would be QuarkXpress.
Now, when I was doing my degree as a graphic designer,
I [inaudible] on Quark.
Now, as soon as I left my degree to get my first job,
InDesign got launched and all of those tools.
I started actually teaching Quark way back when,
and it slowly but surely died a death.
I'm sure the people at Quark right now
are still making versions and there are people still using it,
but it's a very,
very small percentage of work,
and pretty much any new work is all done in InDesign.
Some legacy files you stumble across occasionally had done in Quark,
but we don't use Quark very much anymore or I don't use it at all.
I haven't used it for probably about 10 years, it's a long time indeed.
Now Pagemaker was it's made by Adobe as well,
and you probably never going to touch it,
it's for really big things.
Say I need to put together a scientific document
about some medical treatment medicine that we're making,
I might open up Pagemaker because it allows
many people to work on one document and update it and track it.
If I was going to build a nuclear reactor,
I'd probably document how it's made and how it's being maintained via Pagemaker.
It's a big old program.
So not a lot of people using that one.
Definitely not for like creative design,
it's all about InDesign.
Now, the other products that might go in hand in hand,
with InDesign is the Photoshop and Illustrator.
Generally, designers will know Photoshop,
Illustrator and InDesign altogether.
Now where they separate out,
Photoshop Is a nice clear difference,
InDesign is a layout program,
you bring in images, bring in text and you combine them in amazing designs.
Photoshop, you open up photographs and you manipulate them,
make them better, change them,
miss with them, fix them up.
When you're finished with them,
you bring it into something like InDesign.
If I was making a flyer,
it's a one-page flyer and I start making it in Photoshop,
I could probably get away with it and it would be fine and I could make it work,
but that would be using Photoshop,
what it's not meant to be used for.
You can do basic stuff like that,
but as soon as you have to have multiple pages,
Photoshop just falls over.
Can't do multiple pages,
you can have master pages or [inaudible]
and it doesn't deal with type very well because it's mainly a photo editing program.
So that's where Photoshop gets used.
Illustrator is the one that is reasonably close to InDesign,
it can do a lot of the same things.
Illustrator is mainly for people illustrating.
But what I use it for mainly in that design field is more logo work and making icons.
It;s really get all the tools structure is around doing those things.
But if I had to do a one-page flyer,
it would look great in Illustrator or InDesign.
It wouldn't really matter to me.
I'd have both programs open whichever of the one is open.
I'm good at both of them, so it doesn't really matter.
Where InDesign gets used if I have to start doing things,
say it's going to be a monthly newsletter or flyer,
then there's some tools in InDesign that may help that flow for doing monthly stuff.
The other thing for InDesign is multiple pages.
Illustrator can do it,
you can have what's called up boards.
But if you've got to really image heavy documents and you start getting past three,
four or five pages,
you'll find illustrator starts grinding to a halt.
Get 10 or 20 pages of images and text and it's quite hard to use.
It starts struggling as a program.
Whereas InDesign, you can have a 400 page document and fly through it and start working.
It's engineered to deal with those lots of pages.
Same thing with InDesign.
You can do some basic illustrator stuff.
There's a pin tool and you can build shapes and you
can make icons and import them, so you can do that and then design.
There's a bit of a crossover between those two.
But if you're going to separate them out.
Illustrator's for doing things like branding and
logos and illustrations and InDesign is all about desktop publishing.
Now, I hope that helps with some of the software and
which ones you should be learning if you're completely new to this,
you can start with InDesign and probably the next step would be Photoshop.
Unless you want to start making your own infographics and those things,
then you look at Illustrator.
I've got courses on all of those.
So if you are keen,
go check out those ones as well.
That'll be it for the what and where does InDesign sit and the world of design.